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Kasie, August 16
Here's the latest breakdown of what is scheduled for the fall semester so far:
* Monday: Econometrics Lunch & Demography & Education Workshops * Tuesday: Empirical Micro (12-1:30) * Wednesday: Micro theory luncheon (12-1:30); Shadow (5:20-6:20) * Thursday Macro theory luncheon * Friday: Recitations
Let me know if there are any mistakes or changes to the scheduling.
Ellie, July 3
Aureo prefers to hold empirical micro club on Tuesdays 12-1:30. Dionissi is requesting a room.
The other options we were considering for empirical remain possibilties for Shadow:
- Tuesday 1:30-3pm
- Wednesday 1:30-3pm
Kasie, June 26
Here's the breakdown of what's scheduled so far (to my knowledge):
- Monday: Econometrics Lunch & Demography & Education Workshops
- Tuesday: Shadow (we're in discussion about moving this to evenings, but that's unlikely at this point)
- Wednesday: Micro theory luncheon
- Thursday Macro theory luncheon
- Friday: Recitations
I think the likely choice for empirical micro at this point (without Shadow changing) is still Thursday or a time other than lunch. Is that not a possibility?
As for food, there are four workshops in "need" of food, two of which we definitely won't fund since they had food last semester (the micros), and we'd like to fund macro/metrics but we may not have the money to do so. That's an awful lot of funding for a faculty member to take up--although we'll gladly accept it so we can use the funding elsewhere (like more happy hours!).
Andrew, June 25
Andy indicated he might be able to get free food for the other clubs too. Since empirical micro conflicts with everything, I will check if we can move the theory club to Monday. Was there a micro club in the fall of 2006?
Ellie Harvill, June 25
I propose that each club do it's own advertising! I think that several of the statements in Andrew's recent email do not necessarily apply to the empricial micro and macro clubs.
1. CONSTRUCTING A SCHEDULE. The way a club schedules it's participants should be determined by the group as a whole. I would suggest that the empirical micro club will construct it's schedule the same way the way micro club did last spring: we made the schedule at the first meeting, allowing the students closer to the job market to select dates first.
2. FREE FOOD. It took all of GES's workshop budget last year to support free food at shadow and one semester of micro club. I know that theory has outside funding. But GES cannot afford to fund both empirical and macro.
3. PARTICIPATION MAY NOT BE OPEN TO FIRST SEMESTER, SECOND YEAR STUDENTS. In the past, clubs have not invited second year students to participant until their second semester. This is the decision of each club.
4. EMPRICAL MICRO MAY NOT BE AT LUNCH! To revise Andrew's earlier calendar for empirical micro club: there is no good day of the week to hold empricial micro club between 12 & 1:30.
- Monday conflicts with the Demography & Education Workshops & Econometrics Lunch
- Tuesday conflicts with Shadow, which the GES doesn't want to change.
- Wednesday conflicts with Theory
- Thursday conflicts with Macro
- Friday conflicts with teaching commitments.
Each of these is a real conflict for several members of the emprical micro club.
I think it would be best to hold the shadow workshop in evening, after the departmental seminars, as Shalini suggested. Since they would be at dinner time, the pizza incentive would still work!
Other than that, our best options are:
- Tuesday 1:30-3pm
- Wednesday 1:30-3pm
These are more difficult slots, since they lie between a club meeting and a departmental seminar.
Andrew (Clausen), June 18
I would like to propose a spam to all students:
"Hi everyone, next semester there will be a lunch clubs for theory (http://boards.ssc.upenn.edu/econ_theory/index.php/Main_Page), empirical micro (http://boards.ssc.upenn.edu/microecon/index.php/Main_Page) and macro (http://boards.ssc.upenn.edu/ges/index.php/Macro_Club). Start thinking about what you want to present, and schedule yourself in!"
Andrew (Clausen), June 17
I won't be back for another month. Dionissi, can I suggest you ask the relevent empirical micro faculty what days they prefer?
Dionissi, June 17
We could have empirical on Thursdays. At this point I think we should put together two or three possible scenarios and then ask the profs which they prefer. When do you get back Andrew? We can meet for a couple minutes and do that when you get back.
Michela Tincani, June 16
- I think shadow workshop should be on Tuesdays at noon at least during the Fall semester, which is the most busy one. It should be at noon because it needs a pizza incentive more than any other workshop. We can move it during the Spring semester, there will be less people presenting and it would be useless to keep a slot free every week when people present only once in a while.
Andrew (Clausen), June 15
Before I bother the theory faculty, I just want to be clear about the constraints. For theory:
- the theory faculty expressed a preference for Wednesday. (Except George, who has a preference for Thursday over Wednesday.) The room is already booked for Wednesday noon.
For empirical:
- Monday is bad because of the Education workshop
- Tuesday is possibly bad because of the shadow workshop. But this can be moved.
- Wednesday is bad because of the theory club.
Did I miss any constraints? If not, why not just have empirical club on Tuesday, Thursday or Friday?
Dionissi, June 15
That would be great if theory could be on Mondays. There's a seminar series at the school of education that is on Mondays that could be of interest to people doing empirical micro: http://www.gse.upenn.edu/pimfer/lectureseries.html (at least it was on Mondays at noon in the spring). If Wednesdays are much better for theory people (students and/or profs) we can figure something else out, but that would be great if empirical could have Wednesdays and theory were on Mondays.
Andrew (Clausen), June 15
Andy has booked "room 169 in McNeil for Wed's 12-1:30 for the (theory club) seminar". When we were deciding a time, the course schedule was rather unclear. Now it's clear that there are no conflicting classes on Monday. I think we can move the theory club to Monday, although we should check with all of the theory faculty. Is there any particular reason to have the empirical club on Wednesday rather than Monday?
Michela, June 13
- Let's see what Andrew (Clausen) says about micro theory, maybe they can move it to, say Monday. He said he couldn't participate in this discussion now, he'll be free soon.
- I think that in the spring semester Shadow workshop could be moved to the evening, since normally there are not many people presenting in the spring. This way the Tuesday slot would be free. First I have to check with Charmaine if this is possible.
Kasie, June 13, 2007
- Could we do micro theory club on Monday from 12:30-1:30? I agree that Thursday would be pretty long, and with people having recitations on Friday (and the major procrastinating that occurs in preparing for that), perhaps a long Thursday isn't best.
- Also note that Empirical IO will be offered in the spring, not the fall as originally planned. So you could just do it during that time slot too! 12:30-1:30 on Thursdays.
Dionissi, June 13, 2007
- If micro theory club is from 12:30-1:30 on Wednesdays, I think the empirical micro club could either be from 1:30-2:30 on Wednesdays or 10:45-11:45 on Thursdays. The Wednesday slot conflicts with 712, and the Thursday slot conflicts with Sandroni's game theory course. The Thursday one sounds good to me, but then some people might have really long Thursdays - Petra's class is in the morning, empirical IO is from 12-1:30, Andy's class is from 1:30 - 3, and the empirical micro seminar is from 3:30 - 5. Just some thoughts, let me know what you all think.
Michela Tincani, June 12, 2007
- For shadow workshops we already have a room reserved for the entire year on Tuesdays. For organizational reasons I would prefer to keep the Tuesday lunch slot for shadow. Also, it's good to have pizza incentive.
If a reasonable number of people agree on moving the shadow workshops to the evening, I will certainly try and change that reservation. However shadow workshops have to be on a FIXED day of the week.
Kasie Jean, June 11, 2007
- Wow look at all the action this Wiki is getting already! Just my thoughts: I'd personally love it if the micro clubs met on different days since I'd like to go to both; I agree with Michela that an overlap with Macro seems to make more sense.
- I have no problem with Shadows in the evening, but I'm not sure how feasible that is--comments?
- I'm going to update the link on the main page to go to the micro club wiki. If the other clubs would like wikis, it is easy to create subpages from this site. Just let me know and I can show you!
Shalini, June 11, 2007
- Is it possible to do Shadow in the evenings (after the regular seminars) instead of at lunch? That would free up Tuesday lunch for (Empirical) Micro club. It just seems like, since Shadow doesn't meet weekly and Micro club does, it might be easier to hold the weekly lunchtime slot for Micro club and let people schedule their Shadows on whatever day they want. And that way, the micro's wouldn't be competing with each other or with macro...
Michela Tincani, June 11, 2007
- It appears that the Micro Theory Club will meet on Wednesdays at lunch, as Andrew Postlewaite just wrote in an email to GES. If this is the case, the two micro clubs will meet at the same time. Although GES only requires that workshops don't overlap with shadow, I (as Michela, not as GES officer) think that it would be a good idea to have the two micro clubs meeting on different days. An overlapping between Micro and Macro, for example, would probably make more sense than one between Micro and Micro! Any thoughts, comments?
Thanks Ellie!
Ellie Harvill, June 11,2007
- Andrew Clausen is organizing the (Micro) THEORY CLUB. He wrote
the following in an email to me:
** the theory club is happening ** there will be pizza ** some theory faculty will attend ** people who are interested should think about what and when they want to present!
(I believe that the Theory pizza funding is coming from a non-GES source.)
- Dionissi Aliprantis is going to organize the (Empirical) MICRO CLUB.
** The club will meet Wednesdays, 12pm - 1:30 pm. (I think) ** (Empirical) MICRO CLUB wiki http://boards.ssc.upenn.edu/microecon.
I think that Shadow and Macro should get the pizza funding. Micro (combined theory and empirical) had it last semester. I think it was helpful in getting the club going, but that we don't need that support any longer. And it's too expensive (>$1000 for just micro last semester) to support all the clubs.
Thanks for getting the wiki together, guys! Good job!
